Welcome to Defending Christianity My name is Oliver Tseng and the founder of the debating forum DebatingChristianity.com. The forum was started in 2004 to have a civil and respectful forum to debate Christianity and any religious topic. Since then, over a million posts have been posted by forum members and I’ve posted almost 20,000 posts. …
The cloth collapse theory is proposed by the head of STURP, John Jackson. Russ Brealt’s interview with John Jackson on his theory of image formation: Paper describing the cloth collapse theory: https://www.shroud.com/pdfs/ssi34part3.pdf Here’s the sequence of steps: 1. The body was wrapped with the shroud and the side strip was wound around the body. 2. …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:10 pm Did you have some purpose in re-posting that lengthy discourse and not explaining the absence of imaging over the head? Yes, because I’m providing the background information on the bas-relief technique and a summary of what we’ve discussed so far. With the intro already given, let’s discuss …
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief#/m … se)_01.JPG Since bas-relief has been mentioned multiple times, we’ll start looking at this first. What is bas-relief? Bas-relief is a type of relief (sculpture) that has less depth to the faces and figures than they actually have, when measured proportionately (to scale). This technique keeps the natural shapes of the figures and allows …
We will now deep dive into theories of how the body image originated on the cloth. First off, there is no widely accepted theory on how the body image got there. There are many theories and each one has strengths and weaknesses. We’ll look at the top theories and see how each stands up. The …
There are some claims made by shroud proponents that I have not used in my arguments as evidence as these are disputable evidence. But for completeness I’ll just mention them: – Pollen found on shroud – Flowers on shroud – Coin over eyes – Sponge, nails on the shroud – Pendant hanging on neck – …
JoeMama wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:46 pm So, in summary: Believers probably cannot ever prove it’s an image of Jesus’ face, but neither can skeptics ever prove it’s not. There is no need for anyone to prove anything. As I’ve said at the onset: otseng wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:41 am Like all …
Another thing interesting about the TS is there is no evidence of any erasure or rework on the cloth. If an artist makes a mistake painting something, he’ll paint over it again. If he accidentally draws something, he’ll erase it. If the TS is a work of an artist, he was so accomplished he was …
Features of the TS at the fabric level, thread level, and fiber level… At the fabric level: The image does not go through the entire cloth, but only resides on the surface. It is not a result of any pigment, dye, paint or stain, but from dehydration/oxydation of the fabric. No pigments, paints, dyes or …
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https://www.mysteriesoftherosary.org/20 … turin.html To reiterate what I said at the start of the discussion on the provenance of the TS: otseng wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:04 am Knowing the history of the shroud is not a necessary condition for my arguments on the authenticity of the shroud. But, it would satisfy intellectual curiosity of …
The Gospel of the Hebrews is a lost work that was quoted by early Church Fathers. The Gospel of the Hebrews (Ancient Greek: τὸ καθ’ Ἑβραίους εὐαγγέλιον), or Gospel according to the Hebrews, is a lost Jewish–Christian gospel. The text of the gospel is lost, with only fragments of it surviving as brief quotations by …
