Wrong glasses

nobspeople wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:35 am So, how can we trust the Bible if it’s not inerrant? Only by faith and want. No other way. There will always be an element of faith, but it doesn’t need to be blind faith. As for the “errors”, there are several possibilities to account for this. …

How are we to determine what is correct?

nobspeople wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 10:43 am If we accept the bible has errors, omissions, contradictions… how are we to determine which items are ‘correct’ and which are ‘in error’? Same as with any source of authority. There is no authority that is inerrant – government, teachers, professors, police, managers, doctors, politicians, preachers, or …

Bible is qualitatively different from any book in human history

Difflugia wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 10:13 am I can’t, though, reconcile calling it the Word of God unless there is something qualitatively different about the Bible than any other human literature. If the Bible is presenting the fruits of human effort to understand God, how is that different than a devotional, even if it’s …

Jewish mindset

Mithrae wrote: ↑Tue Oct 12, 2021 12:52 pm Once upon a time we had a Jewish member (cnorman perhaps) with a signature line saying something like “The Torah is the word of God… and some of it is even true!” In other words, it is errant but still the ‘word of God.’ Yes, my belief …

Secondary causation

brunumb wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:56 pm It was written by people and there is nothing about it that necessitates the involvement of any deity. For purposes of this thread, can assume that. Definitely God is not the primary causation of the Bible. However, I do believe God can be involved through secondary causation. …