Faith comes by seeing, and seeing by the Shroud of Turin

Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 2:09 pm [Replying to otseng in post #2907 The Shroud of Turin is the extraordinary evidence that supports the crucifixion, death, and resurrection of Jesus. “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Shroud of Turin.” (Osteng 1:1) Actually, it should be “Faith comes by seeing, and seeing by …

Horn and Dillahunty – Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

In the debate between Trent Horn and Matt Dillahunty on the resurrection in Pints with Aquinas, Dillahunty stated: 25:54 The claim needs to be extraordinary because of the narrative so you know extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Oh wait a minute is that actually true? Everybody’s heard that. I’ve said it, other people said it. …

2 Timothy 4:13 – Cloak

Larry Stalley notes that 2 Timothy 4:13 could be a reference to the shroud. https://www.academia.edu/47520165/_BRIN … othy_4_13_ 2Ti 4:13 The cloke that I left at Troas with Carpus, when thou comest, bring with thee, and the books, but especially the parchments. https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2ti/4/13/s_1129013 In Greek, the passage is: τὸν φαιλόνην, ὃν ἀπέλιπον ἐν Τρῳάδι παρὰ Κάρπῳ, …

Marvin Mueller’s Critical Appraisal

Comments on “The Shroud of Turin:A Critical Appraisal” by Marvin M. Mueller Published in Skeptical Inquirer Spring 1982 https://cdn.centerforinquiry.org/wp-con … 23/p17.pdf Mueller correctly notes modern science has roots in natural theology. Early in the four-century history of modern science, a dominant motive for doing “natural philosophy” was usually cut from the cloth of “natural theology”—worshipping …

Coins over eyes

pm https://www.theholyshroud.net/Coins.htm C10) There is the image of an identified coin (dilepton lituus) on the right eye (Filas 1982; Haralick 1983; Barbesino 1997) . C11) There is an image of another identifiable coin (Pilate lepton simpulum) over the left eye (Balossino 1997; Barbesino 1997). https://shroud.com/pdfs/doclist.pdf The two suspected coins placed on the eyes are believed …