Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 12:45 am But not on the face. He’s looking at the same image you’re looking at, and he’s noticing that it is not the image of someone who was marred beyond human likeness.
There’s no requirement in this passage that his face had to be marred beyond human likeness.
Here’s Isa 52:14:
“As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men:”
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/isa/52/14/s_731014
“visage” is mar’ê
It means: appearance (35x), sight (18x), countenance (11x), vision (11x), favoured (7x), look upon (4x), fair (with H2896) (2x), miscellaneous (15x).
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon … v/wlc/0-1/
Who else in human history has been beaten, scourged, crowned with thorns, whipped, crucified, and pierced in the side and been more marred?
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1130974#p1130974
I don’t think the passage either means to take it in a hyperliteral way and say he’s no longer human looking. Not everything in the Bible has to be taken in a literalistic way.
Here are additional translations of Isa 52:14:
(2001)
To the amazement of all.’Though men will despise his appearance, And his glory will be hated by sons of men;
(ABP)
In which manner [²shall be amazed ³by ⁴you ¹many], so [⁴shall be despised ⁵by ⁶men ¹the ²sight ³of your appearance], and your glory by the sons of men.
(AGBK)
Many people will be surprised by him because he will look very different from other people. He will have lots of scars and bruises, and his body will be very different from other people’s bodies.
(JUB)
As many rejected thee, in such manner was his likeness and his beauty, disfigured from the sons of men:
(LXXE)
As many shall be amazed at thee, so shall thy face be without glory from men, and thy glory shall not be honoured by the sons of men.
https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1131266#p1131266