Medallion of Lirey

TRANSPONDER wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:28 pmOn the medallion of Lirey, the reproduction of the Shroud is unmistakable as we can clearly see the frontal and dorsal of a body very similar to the Turin Shroud along the coats of arms of the families (i.e. de Charny, de Vergy) who owned the Shroud in France around 1350-1450. It is difficult to date the medaillon precisely, but based on coats of arms, it was likely produced between 1350 and 1418, the period that the Shroud was in Lirey.” (souvenir of Lirey).

The bother has always been – if this is a medieval fake, how was it possible? I had in mind the idea that the present shroud was not the Lirey one and that an original one was replaced quietly by one made in the renaissance, at a time when technological sophistication might make it possible to fabricate.


The Medallion of Lirey is the first known rendition of the TS with a full front and back body. This is evidence the shroud displayed at Lirey was the TS. I have not found anyone (shroudies or skeptics) that dispute this.

There are few features interesting about the Cluny Museum piece:

1. It is a 3-D relief of a totally nude person.

2. Right arm is more pronounced than the left arm.

3. Coat of arms links it to Jeanne de Vergy and Geoffroy I de Charny.

Two essential elements represented on the medallion were used to date it: the two coats of arms (or emblems, ecussons, blason) of the families owning the Shroud in 1353. Jeanne de Vergy was the spouse of Geoffroy I de Charny. Geoffroy I de Charny died on 19 September 1356. His grandfather on his mother side was Jean de Joinville, a close friend of King Louis IX and also the author of his biography.

4. At the bottom represents a tomb with a cave hole entrance, a box or a shelf, a cross with a circle under it. The circle could be the crown of thorns. Either side of the tomb are probably Roman flagrums.