Torah family – Is the Shroud of Turin the burial Cloth of Yeshua?

Torah Family posted a video arguing against the TS from a scriptural point of view:

Is the Shroud of Turin the burial Cloth of Yeshua?

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The mere fact of seeing how there is a gap of the image in the middle of the cloth proves the cloth was definitely not wrapped around him. In fact the implication of the imprinted image on the cloth implies the imprinted areas of the cloth top and bottom were the only parts of the cloth that were touching Yeshua’s body.

What this means is the image could not have been made by a contact or vapor method. But, it does not rule out the vertically collimated radiation or the cloth collapse imaging theories.

2:31
The scriptures tell us that Joseph of Arimathea literally wrapped Yeshua’s body in Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, and John 19:40. The word used for wrapped here in John 19 implies Joseph and Nicodemus literally bound Yeshua’s body in the cloth.

Here are the verses:

[Mat 27:59 KJV] 59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat … onc_956058

[Mar 15:46 KJV] 46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mar/15/46/s_972046

[Luk 23:53 KJV] 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/luk/23/53/s_996053

[Jhn 19:40 KJV] 40 Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/19/40/s_1016040

In Matthew, Luke, and John, wrapped is “entylissō”.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon … jv/tr/0-1/

In Mark, wrapped is “eneileō”.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon … jv/tr/0-1/

These are the only places in the Bible these words are used. From the context, we do not know exactly how Jesus was wrapped. But according to John Jackson, it was probably like this:

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3:20
It’s impossible to have a perfect flat image of the body on a cloth when it was literally bound tight by that cloth will there be an image of course but it would be distorted from every angle. It wouldn’t be a perfect two-dimensional image as given on the Shroud of Turin.

There’s only two theories that can account for it: vertically collimated radiation and cloth collapse. Other imaging theories that involve a wrapped body would have severe distortion, including vapor theories and bas-relief.

4:19
The word is actually plural for cloths thus it’s interpreted as strips of linen.

John is the only one that uses the plural form of clothe.

[Jhn 20:5-7 KJV] 5 And he stooping down, [and looking in], saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. 6 Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself.

The shroud was not just a single piece, but actually two pieces – the main cloth and a side strip. More on the side strip at:
viewtopic.php?p=1119872#p1119872

4:44
Also notice the facial cloth here where else do we see this you guessed it with Yeshua seen here in John chapter 20 verses 6 and 7. This shows even more clarification that the facial cloth was one that surrounded his whole head and it was separate from the strips that surrounded his body.

The head cloth would be the Sudarium of Oviedo.

5:27
English translations there definitely appears to be contradictions Luke 24:12 makes it appear as strips of linen however Matthew 27:59 implies it to be a singular piece of cloth so are these contradictions or are they translation errors.

This would not be a problem of the Turin Shroud, but more of a textual issue. But from the shroud point of view, it can either be considered a single cloth or two cloths, depending on how one views it. The side strip was cut from the main cloth, so it was originally one piece.

7:28
Please consider the following Prophecy from Isaiah 52 verse 13. See my servant will act wisely he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted just as there were many who were appalled at him his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness. So Yeshua was so disfigured there was no recognizing him even as a man yet looking at the Shroud you see an image of a man hardly scarred at all in comparison to Isaiah 52.

Not even sure what image he is looking at. There are scourge marks over most of the body.

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viewtopic.php?p=1107524#p1107524

Even without considering the shroud, how was Jesus disfigured and marred? What does the Bible say happened to him?

8:56
Pilate had Yeshua flogged. Yeshua was beat so bad he wasn’t even recognizable the cloth would have been covered in blood.

And we see the shroud body image covered with scourge marks.

9:34
There’s also claims that the text Jesus and Nazarene implying Jesus of Nazareth are written on the Shroud of Turin in Greek.

Yes, some claim this, but it is disputable.

10:52
All I’m saying here is there’s way too much evidence in the scriptures that should cause all of us to think before blindly believing what scientists in the Catholic Church tells us regarding this cloth.

There’s actually no viable scriptural arguments against the shroud that I’ve ever encountered. As for the scientific evidence for the shroud, I gave two talks about it:

https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1130866#p1130866