Bart Ehrman comments on Isaiah 53 – Does Isaiah 53 Predict Jesus’ Suffering and Death or Has Isaiah 53 Been Debunked? Ehrman notes Isaiah 53 is the foremost Old Testament passage referred to by Christians pointing to Jesus as the Messiah. Isaiah 53 is the ONE passage, above all others, that has been used over …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:39 am What I pointed out is that the Jews don’t believe the sacrificial system is necessary while they don’t have a temple. Yes, you’ve pointed that out. But it does not rule out the fact they are not following the Torah. In addition, they aren’t even following the …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 10:07 pm He also points out that it’s Christians who are hung up on the Messiah. Jews are not. The entire Jewish argument against Jesus not being the Messiah is because they are looking forward to another one that is the Messiah. What orthodox Jew is arguing there will …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:53 pm I’m referring to Deuteronomy 4:2. Here’s the passage: Deut 4:1-2 (KJV) 1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do [them], that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God …
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Athetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:34 pm Again, where does the Tanakh “explicitly” [as you would say] state that any prophecy therein will be fulfilled more than once? No, I do not claim the Tanakh explicitly says this. I readily acknowledge it’s an interpretation. https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1133078#p1133078 Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:38 pm Then …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:31 pm If not correcting someone who calls you the Messiah means that you can be considered the Messiah, then history is quite possibly littered with Messiahs. There certainly has been. Jesus is not the only Jew that has been identified as a messiah. There have been multiple Jews …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:19 pm Then if God is untemptable, how could Jesus be God while in temptable human form? In the same way that a geometric shape cannot at the same time be both a perfect circle and a perfect square, someone who can be tempted cannot be an untemptable deity. …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 6:19 pm Then if God is untemptable, how could Jesus be God while in temptable human form? In the same way that a geometric shape cannot at the same time be both a perfect circle and a perfect square, someone who can be tempted cannot be an untemptable deity. …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:55 pm And with you there shall be a man of every tribe; every one head of the house of his fathers. (Numbers 1:2,4) Yes, fathers is mentioned. But this is not a genealogical listing of a line of descendants, only father and son relationships. Here is an example …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:55 pm “The Messiah” does appear, just not under that title. And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. (Ezekiel 37:24) As you pointed out, “the Messiah” …