brunumb wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:40 pm How did you establish provenance for the shroud? In other words you need to establish an unbroken link for the shroud back to the tomb and Jesus. Just saying it is possible is not the same thing. What happened to the shroud after it left the tomb? …
The TS was C-14 dated using accelerator mass spectrometry. However, using AMS, it has detected C-14 in coal deposits. This means according to AMS, coal deposits cannot be older than 40,000 years. “Accelerator mass spectrometry (AMS), a sensitive radiometric dating technique, is in some cases finding trace amounts of radioactive carbon-14 in coal deposits, amounts …
The evidence against the authenticity and reliability of the D’Arcis memo is overwhelming. To recap: 1. The letter is unsigned, undated, and there is no record of it ever sent to Antipope Clement VII. We cannot verify who wrote it, when it was written, and if it ever left the trash can. 2. The alleged …
In 1453, the Charny family sold the shroud to the Savoy family. “In 1453 Margaret de Charny deeded the Shroud to the House of Savoy.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o … d_of_Turin It was exchanged for the castle of Varambon and revenues from the Miribel estate. When Humbert died in 1438 the Shroud became the possession of his widow, …
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There are several theories how Charny got possession of the shroud. According to the D’Arcis memo, he got it from a forger. procured for his church a certain cloth cunningly painted, upon which by a clever sleight of hand was depicted the twofold image of one man, that is to say, the back and front, …
More evidence the d’Arcis memo is suspect… The Bibliotheque Nationale of Paris possesses two copies of the Memorandum. Neither is dated. One is complete, the other incomplete. No trace of the Memorandum is found in the Promptuarium Tricassinae Diocesis of the canon Nicolas Camusat, assiduous collector of the ancient archives of the Diocese of Troyes, …
Some more evidence that Geoffroy de Charny never put the shroud into the church that he built in Lirey… when Charny formally founded the Lirey church – which he did between 1353 and May 1356 via an Act of Foundation so tedious and so lengthy that it has never been translated from its original Latin …
The church in Lirey that ultimately housed the shroud was founded in 1353 by Charny. On 20 June 1353, Geoffroy de Charny, Lord of Savoisy and Lirey, founded at Lirey a collegiate church with six canonries, in honour of the Annunciation of the Virgin Mary, and in this church he exposed for veneration a Holy …
As Bishop of Troyes, Pierre d’Arcis held the highest ecclesiastic position in the city and the surrounding area, which would’ve also including Lirey. In the Catholic Church, a bishop is an ordained minister who holds the fullness of the sacrament of holy orders and is responsible for teaching doctrine,[1] governing Catholics in his jurisdiction,[2] sanctifying …
There are also several inconsistencies with the d’Arcis memo (full text in post 1739). d’Arcis desires for the people not to be deceived that the shroud is genuine. Yet by his own admission, it was never touted by the presenters of the shroud as being the actual shroud of Jesus. “it is not publicly stated …