Human Creation Model response 2

Abraxas wrote:

– All humanity traces lineage to one man and one woman.

Instead, we find that the mitochondrial Eve lived 200,000 years ago but the comparative Adam lived a mere 60,000-90,000 years ago.

Firstly, as the two did not exist during the same time frame, they certainly could not have produced offspring together. Secondly, as there is not a comparable Adam or Eve in each of their time frames, we are looking at multiple sexual partners, at least for Adam as otherwise an Eve would exist in his timeframe. This prediction is wrong.

Correct, if the two did not exist at the same time, then they could not have produced offspring. So, what is the explanation that the genetic dating of males and females differ? In the human creation model, this is explained by the male genetic bottleneck during the flood. And this confirms the prediction that there is more genetic diversity in females than males.

For human evolution, how can the discrepency be explained?

– There is no gradual transition from animals (specifically primates) to humans.

That prediction fails pretty dramatically. We have countless fossils from the past few million years showing gradual changes to what is modern man.

As I mentioned before, even a gradual evolution among hominids to man cannot even be established. We do not have any fossil evidence of the common ancestor between chimps and humans. And we do not have any fossil evidence of a common ancestor with any other primate. So, I have a differing opinion of which fails dramatically.

– Humanity traces origins to around the Middle East area.

Give you this one.

OK, good.

– Origin of man traces to tens of thousands of years ago.

False, per the above, we can trace Man back millions of years with declining degrees of resemblance.

What do you mean by “Man” here?

– Human culture should appear quickly in history.

Falsified by cave drawing and tools dating back tens to hundreds of thousands of years.

What it states is “possibly 100,000 years ago”. So, even if this is true, it still falls within the tens of thousands of years.

– Clothing possibly 100,000 years ago.
– Stone tools, used by Homo floresiensis, possibly 100,000 years ago. … technology

As for other early human artifacts and activity, they all also fall on the order of tens of thousands of years ago.

Cave paintings:
“The earliest known European cave paintings date to Aurignacian, some 32,000 years ago”

Needles (clothing):
“Archeologists have identified very early sewing needles of bone and ivory from about 30,000 BC, found near Kostenki, Russia in 1988. Dyed flax fibers that could have been used in clothing have been found in a prehistoric cave in the Republic of Georgia that date back to 36,000 BP.”

Cave paintings:
“The earliest known European cave paintings date to Aurignacian, some 32,000 years ago.”

“a ceramic statuette of a nude female figure dated to 29,000-25,000 BCE”

Animal domestication:
“The tribes that took part in hunting and gathering wild edible plants, started to make attempts to domesticate dogs, goats, and possibly sheep, which was as early as 9000 BC”


By 7000 BC, small-scale agriculture reached Egypt. From at least 7000 BC the Indian subcontinent saw farming of wheat and barley, as attested by archaeological excavation at Mehrgarh in Balochistan. By 6000 BC, mid-scale farming was entrenched on the banks of the Nile. About this time, agriculture was developed independently in the Far East, with rice, rather than wheat, as the primary crop. Chinese and Indonesian farmers went on to domesticate taro and beans including mung, soy and azuki. To complement these new sources of carbohydrates, highly organized net fishing of rivers, lakes and ocean shores in these areas brought in great volumes of essential protein. Collectively, these new methods of farming and fishing inaugurated a human population boom that dwarfed all previous expansions and continues today. … nt_origins

“The first actual bow fragments are the Stellmoor bows from northern Germany. They were dated to about 8,000 BCE but were destroyed in Hamburg during the Second World War.”

“Copper was known to some of the oldest civilizations on record, and has a history of use that is at least 10,000 years old.”


Evidence of wheeled vehicles appears from the mid 4th millennium BCE, near-simultaneously in Mesopotamia, the Northern Caucasus (Maykop culture) and Central Europe, and so the question of which culture originally invented the wheeled vehicle remains unresolved and under debate.

“The invention of the first writing systems is roughly contemporary with the beginning of the Bronze Age in the late Neolithic of the late 4th millennium BC.”

– Genetic changes from one species to another and leading to humans are identified. … y_genetics

As I’ve mentioned in this thread, please avoid just posting a URL as a response. Present your evidence and only use links to state your source.