Humans descending from primates concluding argument

I’ll be giving my closing argument for this massive thread and conclude my participation. Humans descending from primates First, I’ll address the arguments presented of man descending from other primates. Chimps and humans Originally, it was claimed that humans and chimps share 99% identical DNA. And this number is still often quoted. However, the latest …

Carbon-14 dating

SailingCyclops wrote: otseng wrote:The thing with a biface is that it is sharpened all the way around the edge. There is no spot to hold it safely to use it as a weapon or as an axe/hoe/knife. If I was a survivalist and had to create a tool out of chert, I would not spend …

Microcephalin

Goat wrote:What ISN”T predicted by the ‘creation model’ is the fact that the microcephalin common ancestor is from 1 million years ago, a full 800 years before the ‘mt-eve’ ancestor’… I’m not sure what you mean by “a full 800 years”. Also, the microcephalin common ancestor is not a fact. The authors state: By using …

Circular arguments

GrumpyMrGruff wrote: otseng wrote:However, the question is what can explain that all other female lines disappeared? In terms of the probability that only one female is the progenitor of all, I’m going to ask Zeeby in my next post about that. As Zeeby pointed out, in stochastic birth-death models like this the number of progeny …

Parsimony

GrumpyMrGruff wrote: As I commented above, I think the best anyone can do is appeal to parsimony for model discrimination. All things being equal, that would be reasonable. However, I’ve presented claims and predictions specifically for human origins. And there is no equivalent model from a naturalistic perspective other than presenting the general theory of …

Observability

GrumpyMrGruff wrote:Sorry about the delay. The real world intruded for a bit. No problem. It intrudes quite often on me too. We cannot observe accumulations of genotypic/phenotypic variation which occur on super-human timescales. We can observe organisms with different morphologies over time (fossils) and a hierarchical pattern of genotypic similarity in living organisms. We can …

Early man and fire

SailingCyclops wrote: otseng wrote: Please show evidence of fire being in use in the last million years. There’s quite a bit of evidence: I think stating that there’s “quite a bit of evidence” is overstating your case. Evolution of Fire The use of fire has long been thought to have coincided with, and perhaps aided …

Uniqueness of humans

McCulloch wrote: What is it about humans that you believe is novel, as compared to the other primates? I’ll quote Juan Luis Arsuaga: We are unique and alone now in the world. There is no other animal species that truly resembles our own. A physical and mental chasm separates us from all other living creatures. …

Cupules

SailingCyclops wrote: otseng wrote: Let’s look at the art from your source. It claims “The oldest known art of prehistory. A cupule at the Auditorium Cave at Bhimbetka, Madhya Pradesh, India. It dates from (290,000-700,000 BCE).” It is disputable that this would be considered art, or even made from man. Not disputed actually. Cupules From …

Stone tools

Let’s start discussing the stone artifacts (tools). Oldowan The Oldowan is significant for being the earliest stone tool industry in prehistory, being used from 2.6 million years ago up until 1.7 million years ago, when it was followed by the more sophisticated Acheulean industry. Oldowan tools were therefore the earliest tools in human history, and …