To recap, here are the reasons John could not be TDWJL:
– John identifies himself in Revelation
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– There are two ways to spell Jerusalem. One is used in Revelation and another different one is used in the fourth gospel.
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– The fourth gospel does not mention events where only Peter, James, and John were present with Jesus (raising of Jairus’ daughter from the dead, Jesus’ transfiguration, and the prayer at Gethsemane), but all synoptic gospels record them
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– John not mentioned in Luke of visiting the tomb of Jesus
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– Fourth gospel said beloved disciple believed, but Mark says the 11 disciples did not believe
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– Fourth gospel calls John the Baptist only by John and does not qualify it
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– Events that John is recorded as participating at is not mentioned in the fourth gospel (preparation of the last supper)
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– John could not have been known to the high priest
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– Only Peter is recorded in the synoptic gospels as following Jesus when he was arrested
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– John was considered “unlearned and ignorant” and not likely to have written the fourth gospel.
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– Fourth gospel never mentions the calling of John as an apostle (whereas all the synoptic gospels do)
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– Fourth gospel never lists the names of the apostles
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– John was not humble
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– In Luke, John is not mentioned to have visited the tomb
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– John 21:2 mentions other disciples
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– John lived several days journey from Jerusalem
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Here are reasons Lazarus is TDWJL:
– Secret gospel of Mark
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– Lazarus believed when he saw graveclothes in the tomb because he was in the same situation and understood the implications.
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– Lazarus was known to the high priest and allowed entrance by the door keeper
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– Better explains why Peter asked Jesus “Lord, and what this man?” in the final chapter of the fourth gospel
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– Lazarus was from a wealthy family and most likely well educated to be able to write the fourth gospel.
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– Lazarus more financially stable than John to be able to take care of Jesus’ mother
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– The structure of the fourth gospel puts the resurrection of Lazarus as a central event and as a foreshadowing event
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– Lazarus lived a half hour walk from Jerusalem
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– The Bible only explicitly records Jesus loving Lazarus
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Why isn’t Lazarus mentioned in the other gospels?
– He was considered inconsequential
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Why did the fourth gospel change from using the name Lazarus to “the disciple whom Jesus loved”?
– He wanted his account to be anonymous
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Could TDWJL have participated in the last supper but simply not have recorded it?
– This is unlikely for various reasons
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https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=959630#p959630