Athetotheist claims Deut 4:2 means one cannot add anything to the Torah. Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 11:06 am As for not swearing/making a vow, it’s another example of Jesus getting to the heart. There isn’t really any contradiction with what Jesus said and Num 30:2. Yes, there is. “Num 30:2 When a man …
Another famous prophecy is Isaiah 7:14. And it is perhaps one of the most debated passages between Christians and Jews. [Isa 7:14 KJV] Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. otseng wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:05 am …
When Jesus said “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”, this was not some sort of statement of defeat, but Jesus was simply referring to Psalm 22. The Tanakh did not have chapter numbers at that time, so the first sentence of a chapter was used to refer to it. [Mat 27:46 KJV] …
The passages of the suffering servant in Isaiah were fulfilled by Jesus Christ: otseng wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:21 pm Passages of Isa 52:13 – Isa 53:8 that were fulfilled by Jesus: Be exalted and very high. [Isa 52:13 KJV] 13 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and …
David Solomon on “The Messianic Idea in Jewish History” Solomon confirms the idea of a personal Messianic deliverer is late. 4:54 Many scholars believe that that picture that idea is not really older than say the first century BCE in the late Hellenic already, in fact later getting to late antiquity. The idea evolved over …
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Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:37 am The Messiah is supposed to bring the entire world to belief in a single deity. I don’t know about that. What support is there for this? https://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1134848#p1134848 Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:14 pm He must influence the entire world to acknowledge and serve one G-d. …
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Most Jews don’t believe in a Messiah and think it’s an archaic belief. For so many contemporary Jews, though, traditional notions of a Messiah (Moshiach) and future Redemption have become archaic and vaguely embarrassing notions, even though they are woven throughout the daily prayers, the Bible and rabbinic texts. https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news … cher-rebbe In the modern …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:42 am https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/ar … he-messiah 1) He must be Jewish. (Deuteronomy. 17:15, Numbers 24:17) Obviously Jesus is Jewish. 2) He must be a member of the tribe of Judah (Genesis 49:10) and a direct male descendant of King David (I Chronicles 17:11, Psalms 89:29-38, Jeremiah 33:17, II Samuel 7:12-16) …
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Bart Ehrman comments on Isaiah 53 – Does Isaiah 53 Predict Jesus’ Suffering and Death or Has Isaiah 53 Been Debunked? Ehrman notes Isaiah 53 is the foremost Old Testament passage referred to by Christians pointing to Jesus as the Messiah. Isaiah 53 is the ONE passage, above all others, that has been used over …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:39 am What I pointed out is that the Jews don’t believe the sacrificial system is necessary while they don’t have a temple. Yes, you’ve pointed that out. But it does not rule out the fact they are not following the Torah. In addition, they aren’t even following the …