Extreme oversimplification of a very complex and nuanced

TRANSPONDER wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:29 am Well yes, it does sound reasonable. There is no reason to demand tilting, faulting, rolling over and strata folding everywhere.

For the span of a billion years, there is relatively little evidence of faults, uplift, folding, erosion, seismic activity, geologic activity (and let me add even plant growth) is reasonable?

Still it’s handy that you focus on that particular feature which can be considered in detail, rather than a general assessment of global geology, which is a big subject.

I’m talking about a general pattern seen throughout the world, not just an isolated occurrence.

bluegreenearth wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:59 am Whether you realize it or not, your description above is an extreme oversimplification of very complex and nuanced geologic, geophysical, and geomorphic processes which requires many years of intense fieldwork, experimentation, research, and study to accurately comprehend. Therefore, it would be naïve for me or anyone else to expect you to become convinced by mere fragments of a complete picture. Unfortunately, while I am an experienced geomorphologist, I just don’t have the time or resources to teach you what I know and can only encourage you to acquire the advanced education necessary on this topic before judging the consensus of experts in the field to be unreasonable. There is nothing wrong with asking those critical thinking questions, but it should mean something to you that none of the experts in the field have found any evidence to suggest the established theories in geology, geomorphology, geophysics, sedimentology, stratigraphy, etc. are unreasonable at this time.

Excellent, then as our resident expert, you would be the ideal person to answer the questions for us.

Whether all the skeptics realize it or not, all the attacks on the Bible have been also an “extreme oversimplification of a very complex and nuanced” book. I have already spent considerable time trying to clarify the erroneous views of the Bible and I expect to spend even more time on this. I would ask you to do the same with geology.

The content provided in the videos below are not at all comprehensive enough, but they do describe a brief history of how the foundational principles of “Earth Science” were first developed, critically examined, and finally accepted by the consensus of experts at the time:

I would ask that you post the salient text of the videos in the post and then provide the link to the videos as a reference.

TRANSPONDER wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:00 am btw. I’m still wondering whether all this shouldn’t be hived off to a new thread. Young earth objections to deep time geology relate of course to Genesis -literalism but it’s not directly the subject of Bible inerrancy.

I’ve been reluctant all along to go into details of arguing for a global flood here, but a poster has been clamoring to discuss it…

Diogenes wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 8:50 pm

otseng wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:22 am

Diogenes wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 11:31 am But a worldwide flood with animals on a boat for a year? Nada. As for the general creation story, among other problems,

Diagoras has said discussing the flood is not necessary…

Of what relevance is it that Diagoras said it is not necessary to discuss the flood? You made a claim there is evidence for the Biblical creation and flood stories. I am asking you to support your claim.

Diogenes wrote: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:59 am Oliver wrote, “I will eventually get to the creation and the flood. But, I ask everyone to stop repeatedly asking for us to cover these. I will get to it.”
Will we have to wait until you translate Proto-Masoretic Hebrew from Second Temple period? :)

For the flood discussions, we can go back to discussing the actual OP of authority and inerrancy of the Bible when we conclude the discussion on the global pattern we see of the rock strata.