POI wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 7:38 pm otseng wrote: ↑Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:30 pm POI wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:44 pm Paul asserts ALL Scripture. This means when Scripture speaks about Adam and Eve, a flood, the Exodus, slavery, women’s oppression, etc; it’s is all given by God. Which means it’s all …
As Diagoras has pointed out at length – and as Jeremiah, Paul, John and the author of Hebrews claimed – any God worthy of the name should be able to speak directly to dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of followers! Maybe that’s why Jesus said that only a few would be chosen, because God can’t …
Mithrae wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:40 pm I mentioned some of these references in my earlier posts in the thread; it’s a surprisingly consistent theme among several authors. Strictly speaking Paul suggests that an authoritative written code will not just be no longer required but actively, fatally detrimental: “Not that we are competent of …
Mithrae wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:12 pm But then in the case of direct communication from God the primary objection is, essentially, that it isn’t perfect and isn’t proof: It might be proof for the person who God spoke to, but certainly not proof for anyone else. We have these people all the time …
brunumb wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:56 pm It was written by people and there is nothing about it that necessitates the involvement of any deity. For purposes of this thread, can assume that. Definitely God is not the primary causation of the Bible. However, I do believe God can be involved through secondary causation. …
Diagoras wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:11 am A book is also a good method to reliably transmit information. Oral communication is prone to errors, esp. when it has to span a large space and time. I agree it’s a better method. But not inerrant. No method is inerrant, whether it would be oral or …
tam wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:48 pm It is also ok to throw away the belief that the bible is the authority for Christians. God is still on His throne and (more than) worthy of our trust, faith, love, allegiance; Jaheshua (not “Jesus”) is still Savior and Lord. He still gave His life and …
Difflugia wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:08 pm I guess I meant in the sense of a method or set of rules for deciding what kinds of statements are or must be true as opposed to those that aren’t. That might not even be how you think about it, but that’s how I do. I …
Difflugia wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:42 pm otseng wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:13 amAnd I’m still on this road. One reason I created this thread is to go deeper on this path by debating others about this. To actually address what this thread is about, I’m curious how much of your view of …
Eloi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:36 pm If God is going to inspire a guide for his loyal ones and that guide contains errors, then that guide is not safe … nor is that God the God the Bible teaches about, a God to trust. This is a common argument and a widely held …