Another early Christian oral tradition is Philippians 2:6-11: Phil 2:6-11 KJV 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being …
Robert Price – Is The Shroud of Turin Real? Derek Lambert on MythVision asked Dr Robert Price what he thinks of the TS: 1:31 Dr Price, the Shroud of Turin is still used by many, not all, apologists and like-minded people who want to prove Jesus did exist. We see his imprint, there’s like blood …
Richard Carrier on The Case Against the Resurrection: Carrier claims extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. 1:13 Therefore the claim that Jesus rose from the dead is an extraordinary claim. So just like a claim to own a starship it requires our extraordinary evidence not because it’s impossible but because it’s incredible we have no more …
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Dale Allison, in his book, The Resurrection Of Jesus: Apologetics, Polemics, History (2021), makes this observation – “New Testament scholars have generally failed to broach the topic [of the Shroud of Turin]”. He does mention John Robinson, but the reference is quite dated with a publication of 1977. I know Gary Habermas has written on …
Waterfall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:02 am God works in mysterious ways God made the body disappear and left a footprint. That is all you can say. No bodily resurrection. The spirit of Jesus was seen. Well, if it was a spiritual resurrection, then the spirit could as well be physically touched and could …
Dan Barker gave a presentation questioning the resurrection of Jesus: Did Jesus Really Rise From the Dead? In the presentation, Barker gave several reasons against Jesus rising from the dead. His first argument is history assumes naturalism and so history cannot investigate miraculous claims. I don’t disagree too much with him here. Just like science …
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Another reference I believe could be a reference to Jesus’ burial clothes is Acts 19:12. Act 19:11-12 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul: So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them. https://simple.uniquebibleapp.com/bible …
Athetotheist wrote: ↑Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:50 pm Again, the amount of study doesn’t matter. The sliding stones of Death Valley were studied for years before a viable solution was suggested. Of course the amount of study matters. It’s extraordinary for the shroud to attract scientists to even study the shroud. Do we see that …
Another passage with an indirect reference to the shroud could be Acts 10:11: Acts 10:11 (KJV) And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/act/10/11/s_1028011 Sheet is othonē (ὀθόνη) – G3607 It means a …
Another possible indirect reference to the post-resurrection shroud is in Acts 1:3. Acts 1:3 (KJV) To whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God: “Infallible proof” is tekmērion (τεκμήριον). https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon … jv/tr/0-1/ The …