Cavemen

nygreenguy wrote: If we were indeed created in the image of god, we shouldnt start off as using sticks and stones and drawing on walls.

Let’s explore the concept of cavemen and drawings on cave walls.

“Cavemen are portrayed as wearing shaggy animal hides, armed with rocks or cattle bone clubs, unintelligent, and aggressive.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveman

However, this perception is based more on speculation, cartoons, movies, and commercials rather than any substantive evidence.

If we look at the evidence of cave drawings, the earliest they date back is to the tens of thousands of years.

“The oldest known cave is that of Chauvet, the paintings of which may be 32,000 years old according to radiocarbon dating.”

“Cave paintings found at the “Apollo 11 caves” in Namibia may be among the earliest cave art. The estimated age of the images date from approximately 23,000 – 25,000 B.C.”

In India, “The earliest paintings on the cave walls are believed to be of the Mesolithic period, dating to 12,000 years ago.”

“The Padah-Lin Caves of Burma contain 11,000-year-old paintings and many rock tools.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_painting

[Cave or rock art] consists of engraved or painted works on open air rocks or on the floors, walls and ceilings of caves, some of them in deep and almost inaccessible crannies. They were created during the Upper Palaeolithic period (40,000 to 10,000 BC), and the best were done by what we call the Magdalenians (from the name of a site), peoples who flourished in Europe from 18,000 to 10,000 BC. Such works have a unity, and can be described as the Magdalenian art system, the first in human history. it was also the longest, lasting for more than two thirds of the total time when humans have produced art.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/C/cave.html

Further, there is no evidence that the places found with cave paintings were places of permanent residence.

Stone Age peoples did not live in caves, except occasionally in cave mouths or natural rock shelters. All the major sites which we know of were special places, not human habitations. Magdalenian artists did produce work in the open air, six examples of which, all engravings, have survived. But the vast majority of open air work has of course disappeared. Caves were used because they were shelters and the art executed in them would be preserved.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/C/cave.html

Paintings also were quite complex. They were not a result of some bored cavemen who decided to put up some graffiti.

We can say this with confidence, for cave art at its best was difficult and expensive to produce. ln the first place, it required lighting. Some eighty five certain and thirty one probable examples of Palaeolithic lamps have survived but less than one third of them were found inside caves. The conjecture, therefore, is that artists usually worked by torchlight. Both lamps and torches consume animal fats in large quantities. Second, while it is true that some of the best cave paintings, especially at Altamira, were painted by artists standing up or in some cases lying down or squatting, others required elaborate scaffolding, no different in principle from that used by Michelangelo when painting the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. Some of the paintings were done on a gigantic scale or at heights many feet from the cave floor. At Labastide in the Pyrenees, an immense horse is found 14 feet above floor level. At Bernifal in the Dordogne, the mammoths are painted 20 feet up. Some of the bulls at Lascaux are over 20 feet long. The famous painting of a woolly rhinoceros at Font de Gaume, whose accuracy was first disputed but then confirmed when a wellpreserved example of this supposedly mythic creature was unearthed in 1907 in a bitumen deposit in Poland, is found high up on a huge cave wall. The sheer scale of the art is daunting. The big cave vault at Lascaux, known as the Picture Gallery, is over 100 feet long and 35 feet wide. Caves were specially chosen for their size as well as for their security. Niaux in the Pyrenees is over half a mile in length, and this is by no means unusual. The big cave in Rouffignac runs over 6 miles into the mountain, and some of its huge collection of drawing engravings are nearly 7 feet long.

http://www.artchive.com/artchive/C/cave.html

Some have also suggested that caves may have been used as concert halls for rituals.

Prehistoric peoples chose places of natural resonant sound to draw their famed cave sketches, according to new analyses of paleolithic caves in France.

In at least ten locations, drawings of horses, bison, and mammoths seem to match locations that focus, amplify, and transform the sounds of human voices and musical instruments.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news … tings.html

So, cave paintings were not the result of a “primitive” man. And it is highly dubious that even “cavemen” ever existed.

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